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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/213289707" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#213289707">(Oct 14 2020 at 13:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey, triage team, I've added a couple of new "process" labels: <a href="https://github.com/rust-analyzer/rust-analyzer/pull/6228/commits/190011168dda6ce4836b105b892f0a26eaf07411">https://github.com/rust-analyzer/rust-analyzer/pull/6228/commits/190011168dda6ce4836b105b892f0a26eaf07411</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/213320302" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jeremy Kolb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#213320302">(Oct 14 2020 at 16:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="133169">@matklad</span> what do the <code>E-</code> and <code>S-</code> prefixes stand for?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/213320681" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#213320681">(Oct 14 2020 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Status and.. easiness?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/213320739" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#213320739">(Oct 14 2020 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>status and experience(?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/213320755" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#213320755">(Oct 14 2020 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>copy-pasted from rust-lang/rust</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/213320892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#213320892">(Oct 14 2020 at 17:02)</a>:</h4>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/213413451" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#213413451">(Oct 15 2020 at 12:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>If anyone is wondering, <code>is:open is:issue -label:S-actionable -label:S-unactionable</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/213414133" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#213414133">(Oct 15 2020 at 12:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Lol, I wondered exactly that like ten minutes ago, ended up wit</p>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span><code>is:issue is:open sort:updated-desc -label:&quot;S-actionable&quot;  -label:&quot;S-unactionable&quot;
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220572138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220572138">(Dec 21 2020 at 10:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Still 430 issues to tag <span aria-label="sweat" class="emoji emoji-1f613" role="img" title="sweat">:sweat:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220572253" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220572253">(Dec 21 2020 at 10:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="203546">@Laurențiu Nicola</span> thanks for making a dent there :-)</p>
<p>I don't think "all issues are triaged &amp; properly addressed" is a an achievable or worthwhile goal -- there are many more issue reporters than issue fixers/triagers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220572322" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220572322">(Dec 21 2020 at 10:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess, the primary goal is to surface some percentage of <code>S-actionable</code> issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220572389" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220572389">(Dec 21 2020 at 10:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Though, tbh, I can's say I actively use our issue tracker at all. It feels like there's some process-level failure here. It indeed is not easy for me to answer "what is the primary value provided by the issue tracker"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220572822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220572822">(Dec 21 2020 at 11:05)</a>:</h4>
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<p>I don't think "all issues are triaged &amp; properly addressed" is a an achievable or worthwhile goal -- there are many more issue reporters than issue fixers/triagers</p>
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<p>I know, but it's worth trying. We closed plenty of already-fixed issues in the last day.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220572904" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220572904">(Dec 21 2020 at 11:06)</a>:</h4>
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<p>what is the primary value provided by the issue tracker</p>
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<p>It's where people having a problem should look before filing a new issue <span aria-label="smiley" class="emoji emoji-1f603" role="img" title="smiley">:smiley:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220576870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220576870">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, I don't understand that question -- clearly if the issue tracker didn't exist, we'd a) be inundated with bug reports here, b) miss many problems because people wouldn't report them, or possibly c) both of those at the same time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220576895" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220576895">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have some feeling that it'd be useful to distinguish between bugs and feature requests, but I don't know if it would actually be</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577187" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577187">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I read that as "I don't look on the issue tracker for stuff to implement"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577231">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>possibly, but I think other people do, considering we regularly get new contributors picking up something from there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577321" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577321">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think issues are generally either fixed quickly, or maybe never. From time to time we've had PRs to implement some long-standing feature, but that doesn't happen too often.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577328" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577328">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>The issue tracker is clearly useful for many things. It's just that I don't have a well-articulated idea of what exactly is it good for.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577364">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>For example, it's both clearly a todo list (I often log various inspections/intentions I wish were implemented), and not a todo list (there's a whole bunch of unactionable issues there, which we will never reasonably address)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577496" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577496">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think issues that we know we will never address should be closed. But it's reasonable to have issues about long-term design problems, both as a place to keep notes and as something to point people to when they ask about them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577606" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577606">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:15)</a>:</h4>
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<p>I think issues that we know we will never address should be closed.</p>
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<p>Empirically, that doesn't work. I haven't seen a public issue tracker which is not a graveyard of issues. This is not a problem in itself, but also not something we can solve</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577608" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577608">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>it would be nice to be able to see at a glance only issues that can be addressed right now, but I don't know if that's realistic / if the effort for that would be worth it</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="129457">@Florian Diebold</span> in theory, that's <code>S-actionable</code> label</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577639" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577639">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577741">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, I'm not sure you'll be happy with how I tagged some of the issues. I used that as "this can be implemented, or it's blocked on something that can be implemented, or we're waiting for the reporter or there's a way to make some amount of progress, if not completely fix it". But there's still some amount of subjectivity involved.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577801" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577801">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm ok yeah I think we have differing conceptions of the label then <span aria-label="sweat smile" class="emoji emoji-1f605" role="img" title="sweat smile">:sweat_smile:</span> I would not tag things that are waiting on information from the reporter as actionable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577824">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>You might have a point there :-)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577826" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577826">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, that's even the primary example of non-actionable issues I'd think of</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577904" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577904">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>But hopefully the reporters will answer soon and we can clean those up</p>



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<p>or we're waiting for the reporter</p>
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<p>Yup, this is unactionable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220577989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220577989">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>So how do I find issues I've updated recently? :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220578006" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220578006">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, seeing unactionable label is an impersonal prod for the reporter to come up with minimal reproduciable example .</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220578016" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220578016">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="203546">@Laurențiu Nicola</span> sort by updated?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220578345" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Laurențiu <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220578345">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:26)</a>:</h4>
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<p>or we're waiting for the reporter</p>
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<p>Actually, I don't think there's too many of those where I did that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220578519" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220578519">(Dec 21 2020 at 12:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="thumbs up" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="thumbs up">:thumbs_up:</span> . I'd also probably tag "blocked on something else" as unactionable.</p>
<p>Generally, I think it's better to classify actionable issues as unactionable, than to classify una as a. The goal is to have as many unactionable issues as possible =&gt; that means we can better focus on actionable ones!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220581885" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220581885">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we could improve the descriptions of the labels? How about "Someone could pick this issue up and work on it right now" for actionable, and "Issue requires feedback, design decisions or is blocked on other work" for unactionable?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220582333" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220582333">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>(the current description makes it sound a bit like E-has-instructions)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220582472" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220582472">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, thouse are better ones</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220582502" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220582502">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Could you update them?</p>
<p>(trying to manually get release out of the door without breaking code 1.51 users :( )</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220584773" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220584773">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>will do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220584774" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220584774">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>what is the point of the S-unactionable label? If you don't plan to fix the issue, why not close it?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220584811" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220584811">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>S-unactionable doesn't mean we're not planning to fix it, it means we can't fix it right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220584818" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220584818">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>and personally I think 'unactionable' should be different from 'waiting-on-author', when I saw 'unactionable' I thought that was the same as 'wontfix'</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220584858" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220584858">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, the new descriptions should help with that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220585007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220585007">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>we <em>could</em> distinguish various kinds of unactionable, but it's again questionable whether that would bring any actual benefit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220585026" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220585026">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="129457">Florian Diebold</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler.2Fwg-rls-2.2E0/topic/new.20labels/near/220584811">said</a>:</p>
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<p>S-unactionable doesn't mean we're not planning to fix it, it means we can't fix it right now</p>
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<p>hmm ok - could you post <em>why</em> you can't fix it now when you add the label? like for <a href="https://github.com/rust-analyzer/rust-analyzer/issues/6547">https://github.com/rust-analyzer/rust-analyzer/issues/6547</a> I have no idea what you need from me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220585138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220585138">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>for that one, I think it's just unclear whether we should do it at all</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220585181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220585181">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220585201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220585201">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, I still think it would be helpful to distinguish those different kinds of unactionable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220585223" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220585223">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>right now that issue sort of seems in limbo, I can't see anyone ever planning to fix it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220585255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220585255">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>the way I see it, the labels aren't directed at the issue author; they're a tool for us to organize the issues</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220585796" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Diebold <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220585796">(Dec 21 2020 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe that one should be actionable though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220586303" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220586303">(Dec 21 2020 at 14:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>well I'm not trying to get special dispensation :P just understand the thought process</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220587250" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220587250">(Dec 21 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
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<p>right now that issue sort of seems in limbo, I can't see anyone ever planning to fix it</p>
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<p>That's  exactly the meaning of unactionable, yeah.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220587280" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220587280">(Dec 21 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>In my experience, a significant fraction of issues end up in limbo, no matter what triage process is used.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new%20labels/near/220587341" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> matklad <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/185405-t-compiler/rust-analyzer/topic/new.20labels.html#220587341">(Dec 21 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>S-unactionable is a way to make this "de facto slips through the cracks" explicit</p>



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